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A MATTER OF IMPORT: voting post for the conclusion
● ● ● VOTING POST
The time has come to put some matters of import to a vote before it is time for this mission to conclude! Before that, though, here is a quick recap of new information that the NPC threads in this month's log have uncovered:
• Zandr's current deal with the orb is preventing everyone affected by ghost matter from dying, and taking the orb away will mean all these people will no longer be protected and will eventually die.
• The anti-matter will only destroy ghost matter in the atmosphere, not in people's bodies.
• After speaking to Ivy, Zandr is aware of the crew's voting process and will ask them to vote about staying for a while in order for the team's healers to try and see if they can help those affected by ghost matter.
• Meanwhile, Yujin has successfully obtained the codes to the harvester on Deumia through his contact with Emerton.
• The anti-matter will only destroy ghost matter in the atmosphere, not in people's bodies.
• After speaking to Ivy, Zandr is aware of the crew's voting process and will ask them to vote about staying for a while in order for the team's healers to try and see if they can help those affected by ghost matter.
• Meanwhile, Yujin has successfully obtained the codes to the harvester on Deumia through his contact with Emerton.
· THE VOTE
For the conclusion, we ask you to place your votes ICly underneath the following categories:
• (2) The Nuhiri rescue effort
• (3) The Deumia infiltration and harvester take-over
• (4) The aftermath: to stay and try to save the ghost-matter afflicted or not
• (5) Anything else
In this particular case, you are free to place your vote underneath any relevant categories — for example, if your character has been working on anti-matter and wants to stay and help the afflicted, you can then place a vote underneath the two categories. Or if your character is part of the rescue effort, then goes on to Deumia, and has an opinion of the aftermath, you can place a vote underneath all three categories. And so on.
We ask that you place your votes by May 27, 6PM GMT.
4: AFTERMATH
Please place your IC vote on how your character would vote on this matter here.
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THAT SAID! If Yujin makes this idea, recruiting and encouraging people from this galaxy to be the ones to come up with the cure, public to the crew, Lockwood will openly support this course of action.
+1
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if anyone is willing to point him their way, that is. he hasn't used his powers actively yet.
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ETA: if the team votes to stay for any period of time, he'd help with the destruction of ghost matter weapons if there's nothing he can do to help with the medical aspect of things.
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He cannot help with healing or anything of the actually helpful parts and he will not try to convince anyone about how staying is the best, most humane thing to do. He just doesn't care enough about these people and everybody dies eventually.
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However, if the team chooses to stay, she'd suggest putting a time limit on it. Maybe a couple of weeks at the most? Something that gives them enough time to see if any of the crew's existing magic and/or superpowers would be effective healing ghost-matter sickness, but not committing to months of research and sitting around watching people die.
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So Zhao would openly agree with the idea to put a hard time limit on this. Two weeks seems reasonable.
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+1 to the +1?!
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If they do decide to stay a time limit is definitely a good idea. Two weeks is generous, he’d probably argue not more than a week. But he’d also be in favor of the crew passing along any research they have to local healers so they can continue to work on the problem after they leave.
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while she is sympathetic and believes that formulating a cure could be a viable option for the crew, she'll bring up ciraiwei and e23-b as examples of what can go horribly wrong — in staying here for too long, they can't be sure what the impact will be on future missions. she fully believes they could be putting yet another world and more innocent lives at risk, creating yet another ciraiwei situation where they arrive too late to fully save/help a world. it feels unlikely they'll be as lucky as they were with ciraiwei, next time.
as someone with no healing abilities or medical background (and who has had her power used without her say in it), she also doesn't feel right volunteering anyone else's power or skill set to fix the situation without their express permission. if those specific crew members and the majority of orbers do decide they want to stay, alina would +1 nat's suggestion of placing an agreed-upon time limit on it, though she'd advocate for a single week to see if any hopeful progress can be made.
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they have already flouted the grab and go rule twice, are they seriously going to do it again and again at the expense of possibly every mission that follows? she is aware this will make her look callous and she simply ✨ doesn't give a fuck ✨
cw: talkin about terminal illness itt
1. That anyone without healing powers/one of their med peeps should abstain from voting. The work, stress, and responsibility of success or failure will fall onto the shoulders of a very small group of individuals, and all the positivity and well-meaning words in the galaxy won't change that. While he feels for those with no desire to see suffering, salving those emotions by forcing their colleagues to attempt a staggeringly difficult task isn't the way to do it.
2. That said, he DOES have an idea of where their non-healer/med orbers can have a tangible impact: both influencing Zandr to see that the stock of Ghost Matter weapons are destroyed, and ensuring the OG team responsible for manufacturing the synthetic GM are brought to justice.
3. If they stay, non-healers could also partner with locals to seek out other locals with healing powers, or those with the resources ($$$) to make a viable cure widespread. Even if the orbers do stay, their small team of healers simply don't have the time or the capacity to cure thousands. Putting that on their shoulders alone is harsh.
Even with all that, as a veteran of e23-b & as a doctor, McCoy is on Team Leave. The locals have been searching for a cure for years- how long would they expect to stay, in turn?
He knows from experience, both personal and professional, that there is never a right time to decide when to stop treatment for a terminally ill patient. But there is an element of selfishness in prolonging their suffering because of a caretaker's inability to let them go.
They aided Ciraiwei by the skin of their teeth, but that doesn't mean they can count on their luck to hold if they're too late for a future mission.
Regardless, if they do stay (which seems likely!), he's 100% helping with the healing efforts to his fullest extent!
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Re: 4: AFTERMATH
As much as he wants to extend himself and support others extending themselves, he also can see they’ve done a lot just by virtue of doing what they could so far, and the deaths are not on them, but on the scientists and government involved in causing this chaos in the first place. So basically: a little frustrated screaming into pillows because there’s no easy answer.
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On hearing suggestions from others that they should contact locals about coming in to aid with a cure if they have the medical know how, he will agree that's the best course of action, however he believes the recruiting should be done by locals and not them.
I know that this is an IC vote, but as we have no idea what the state of the Federation will be at the conclusion of this, it makes it hard to gauge whether the crew could openly search for help or if Zandr is still a wanted man and the crew would have to quietly sneak around trying to make contact with people who could help w/o the Federation catching wind of it. Because of this uncertainty in the finale, I'm going to have Joric say that it should be the criminal underworld and people like Bracken who recruit people to help and shouldn't be up to them.
All this to say that he's abstaining and not outright voting to leave because if the majority votes stay he will pull his weight and offer what help he can should he be pointed in a direction. It seems kind of pointless to vote when all he can see himself doing is twiddling his thumbs waiting on medical staff to possibly develop a cure, but if the vote sways to stay he'll contribute if given a direction he can go in. If there needs to be people to go talk to locals about helping? He'll do it. Need someone to carry heavy boxes of medical supplies? He's on it. There isn't much else he can do beyond talking or using his strength.
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The removal of ghost matter from the atmosphere will have just freed up at least three planets' worth of previously inhibited powered people, perhaps even more if people from outside the complex are willing and able to travel in. Rather than placing responsibility on a handful of the crew to cure an entire ailing population of the ghost matter afflicted, he'll impress that the true value of staying behind is to collectively hold a few days to two weeks of space for the people of Ndiera to come up with a plan that they can execute even after the Orbers have gone with the orb. Or, even failing any wider organised effort, for individuals who have regained the power to save their loved ones to be given the time to do so.
He understands it's potentially a dangerous choice so he's in favour of limiting the time as per the crew's comfort and intends to use his magic to help protect vulnerable crew members if they do stay, as well as planning to help powered support groups organise to assist in the healing effort if they're receptive to his involvement.
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She really hates this and it goes against every fiber of her being because she wants to help so badly and while their crew can try to pitch in as much if the local doctors/healers think it'd be useful for them to stick around for bit? she feels that this is a task more suited towards someone recruited for it within this galaxy who have the knowledge, expertise and resources for that, etc.
If at the end of the day, they do ultimately decide to stay, she would agree with the fact they should set a hard limit on it. She would vote for that to be one week at most but regardless for whatever time they do stay, she'll absolutely help out on the medical side of things as best as she can before they leave.
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That said, he'll complain less if a strict time limit (as suggested by Natasha) comes into play if they stay. And he will adamantly enforce this time limit himself if need be. Although with the way the vote is going, he will be happy to note others also in agreement for having to uphold a limit on things.
If they do stay he'll go back to doing mercenary work to earn money (most of which he'll give to the cause since he won't be staying as far as he's concerned but he's still greedy and living here for the moment so not all of it) and keeping an eye and ear out for information on how their situation is re: the Federation hunting them and Zandr for going up against them, etc.
Re: 4: AFTERMATH
She will also advocate for a time limit of two weeks- they can't stay indefinitely, and she's hoping that since the locals will be free to use their magic, they'll be able to pick up the slack.
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though she wouldn't be opposed to organizing assistance for zandr for a few days at most if it came down to it - in the sense that ultimately she thinks giving the locals the tools they need to help themselves rather than orbers staying to do it for them is the better option in the long run.